Elizabeth ("Betsy") MILNE

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, 37 Bank St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1911, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK

Notes:

It seems possible that Betsy's two illegitimate daughters could have been fathered by William Silver

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Birth:
Family information.

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Census:
1911 census for 5 Cowan St, Glasgow
Elizabeth SILVER, head, aged 70, widow, born Banchory
Lizzie SILVER, dau, aged 37, single, commercial bookkeeper, born Old Machar
William H. SILVER, son, aged 34, single, ?? measurer, building construction, born Glasgow
George P. SILVER, dau, aged 30, single, company secretary, law makers, born Glasgow
Annie Taylor, niece, aged 26, single, born Maryculter

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Died:
1914 Deaths in the District of Hillhead in the Burgh of Glasgow No 309 Elizabeth Silver, widow of William Silver School Teacher 1914 April Fifteenth at 5.15pm at 5 Cowan Street, Glasgow Female 73 years Father: William Milne Farmer & Contractor (deceased) Mother: Jane Milne M.S. Walker (deceased) Cause: Bronchitis, cardiac failure as cert by Fred V Adams Witness: G. P. Silver Son

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Elizabeth married William SILVER on 29 Dec 1875 in 15 Seamount Place, Aberdeen, Scotland, UK. William (son of George SILVER and Jean MIDDLETON) was born on 13 Apr 1822 in Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK; died on 23 Nov 1883 in 60 Elmbank St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _EYEC: BROWN; Service record
• _FGRAVE: 83079543
• _HAIR: BROWN; Service record
• _HEIG: Between 5FT 4 1/2 INS (162 C and m); Service record
• Census: 1881, 60 Elmbank St, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1891, 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, 37 Bank St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1911, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Occupation: 1916; Quantity surveyor
• Residence: 1916, 44 Percy St, Maryhill, North Kelvinside, Glasgow, Scotland
• _MILT: 1916-1919; Canadian Overseas Expeditionary Force

Notes:

On his military record, he gives wrong birth year (1879 instead of 1876), but in another document in his papers, his correct age (42 years 5 months) is given in 1919. His brother George Pitman Silver is initially given as next of kin, but after he married Elizabeth McGregor in 1918, he changed his will accordingly.

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Birth:
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Statutory registers - Births
SILVER, WILLIAM WALKER, M, born 1876, ref 644/9 1444, at Kelvin

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Census:
1881 Census, Dwelling: 60 Elmbank St Census Place: Barony, Lanark, Scotland
William SILVER M 58 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Teacher Of Phonography
Betsy SILVER M 40 F Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife
Maggie M. SILVER U 16 F Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Stationery Shop Girl
Lizzie SILVER 7 F Aberdeen, Aberdeen, Scotland Rel: Daur Occ: Scholar
William N. SILVER 4 M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
George P. SILVER 1 m M Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland Rel: Son
Janet ADAMS W 59 F Colmonell, Ayr, Scotland Rel: Nurse Occ: Ladies Nurse
Percy M. LOW U 19 M Inverkip, Renfrew, Scotland Rel: Lodger Occ: Clerk Stockbrokers
Eldred LOW U 18 M England Rel: Lodger Occ: Clerk Stockbrokers

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Census:
1891 census for 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland
Name: Elizabeth Silver Age: 50 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Banchory Devenick, Kincardine Shire
Name: Lizzie Silver Age: 17 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Female Where born: Macher, Aberdeenshire
Name: Wm W Silver Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarks
Name: Geo P Silver Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarks
Name: Abiel Silver Age: 8 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarks
Registration Number: 644/9 Registration District: Kelvin Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire
Address: 132 W Graham St Occupation: Scholar ED: 7 Household Schedule Number: 164 Line: 4 Roll: CSSCT1891_274

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Census:
1901 census for 37 Bank St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
Name: Elizabeth Silver Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841 Relationship: Head Gender: Female Where born: Banchory Devenick, Kincardineshire
Registration Number: 646/3 Registration district: Partick Burgh Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 37 Bank St
ED: 3 Household schedule number: 32 Line: 1 Roll: CSSCT1901_331
Name: Elizabeth Silver Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875 Relationship: Daur (Daughter) Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Female Where born: Aberdeen, Aberdeenshire
Name: William W Silver Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 646/3
Name: George P Silver Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Name: Abiel Silver Age: 18 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883 Relationship: Son Mother's Name: Elizabeth Silver Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Name: Annie Taylor Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885 Relationship: Niece Gender: Female Where born: Maryculter, Kincardineshire

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Census:
1911 census for 5 Cowan St, Glasgow
Elizabeth SILVER, head, aged 70, widow, born Banchory
Lizzie SILVER, dau, aged 37, single, commercial bookkeeper, born Old Machar
William H. SILVER, son, aged 34, single, ?? measurer, building construction, born Glasgow
George P. SILVER, dau, aged 30, single, company secretary, law makers, born Glasgow
Annie Taylor, niece, aged 26, single, born Maryculter

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Residence:
As per military records.

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Buried:
Name: William Walker Silver
Birth Date: 21 Oct 1876
Birth Place: Glasgow City, Scotland
Death Date: 28 Apr 1919
Cemetery: Cimeti?ere Mont-Royal
Burial or Cremation Place: Outremont, Montreal Region, Quebec, Canada
Has Bio?: Y
URL:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/83079543/william-walker-silver

William married Elizabeth MACGREGOR on 21 Oct 1918 in Kelvin, Glasgow, Scotland, UK. Elizabeth was born on 24 Dec 1880 in Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire, Scotland, UK; died on 24 Nov 1964 in Henry Brock Hospital, Alexandria, Helensburgh, Dumbartonshire, Scotland, UK. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, 37 Bank St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1911, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK

Notes:

Birth:
1881 Births in the District of Kelvin in the Burgh of ?? No 447 George Pitman Silver 1881 March Eighteenth 7.50pm at 60 Elmbank Street, Glasgow Male Father: William Silver Teacher of Phonography Mother: Betsy Silver M.S. Milne (Parents married 1875, December 29th, Aberdeen)Witness: William Silver Father Present

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Died:
1936 deaths in the district of Shettleston in the burgh of Glasgow.
Statutory Deaths 644/010563
No 563, George Pitman Silver, wallpaper manufacturer cashier married to Sarah Ann Bottomley, 1936 June 12th at 9.5pm at Belvedere Hospital (usual residence 41 Silverton St, Glasgow), male, 55 years, son of William Silver, school teacher (deceased) and Betsy Silver M.S.Milne (deceased), Various causes including meningitis. Informant: S.A.Silver, widow, 41 Silverton St, Glasgow.

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Family/Spouse: Sarah Ann BOTTOMLEY. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1911, Windsor Ward, Antrim, Ireland

Notes:

Birth:
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Statutory registers - Births
SILVER, ABIEL, M, year 1882, ref 644/9 1266, in Kelvin
1882 births in the district of Kelvin in the Burgh of Glasgow
No 1266 Abiel Silver, born 1882, September 2 at 7.30pm at 60 Elmbank St, Glasgow, male, son of William Silver, teacher of phonography and Betsey Silver, M.S.Milne, who married 29 Dec 1875 in Aberdeen. Informant, William Silver, father.

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Census:
1911 census for 9 Crescent Upper (Windsor Ward, Antrim)
In house headed by Robinson Robert:
Name: Abiel Silver Gender: Male Marital Status: Single Age: 28 Birth Year: abt 1883 Birth Place: Scotland
Literacy: Read and write Occupation: Shop Assistant Drapery Religion: Swedenborgian* Relationship: Boarder
URL: http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Windsor_Ward/Crescent_Upper/168695/
*A Swedenborgian was one who was influenced by the writings of scientist and Swedish Lutheran theologian Emanuel Swedenborg (1688-1772).
Swedenborg, like others before and after him, believed he was given special revelation.

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Died:
1912 deaths in the district of Govan in the county of Lanark
No 1057, Abiel Silver, known as Arthur Silver, drapher warehouseman (single), 1912 October twenty ninth 6am at 167 Renfew Road, Govan Parish (former residence, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow), male, 30 years, son of William Silver, teacher of shorthand (deceased) and Elizabeth Silver (M.S. Milner). Causes: Tuberculosis phthisis. Informant W.W.Silver, brother, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow.

Notes:

Birth:
1864 Births in the District of Portlethen in the County of Kincardine
No 17 Margaret Milne illegitimate 1864 April Fourteenth 4.15pm at Bottletreebush, Porlethen Female
Mother: Betsy Milne Housemaid Signed: Betsy Milne Mother
Registrar: David Silver

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Died:
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/ Statutory registers - Deaths
SILVER, MARGARET, aged 71, year 1936, ref 644/17 434, in Govan

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Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1891, 132 W Graham St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, 37 Bank St, Govan, Glasgow, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1911, 5 Cowan St, Glasgow, Scotland, UK

Notes:

Birth:
1873 Births in the District of St Nicholas in the Burgh of Aberdeen No 1010 Elizabeth King Milne illegitimate 1873 July twelfth at 9.45pm Lying in Hospital, 61 Guest??, Aberdeen Female Mother: Elizabeth Milne domestic servant Witness: Elisabeth Milne Mother

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Died:
1938 Deaths in the District of Hillhead in the Burgh of Glasgow No 198
Elizabeth Carr (Widow of John Aiken Carr Engineer's Packer) 1938 February Seventeenth 2.20pm at Western Infirmary, Glasgow Female 64 years Father: William Silver* Shorthand Teacher (deceased) Mother: Elizabeth Silver previously Milne M.S. Milne (deceased)
Cause: Carcinoma of Pancreas, Carcinoma of Liver, Gallstone as Cert by ???
Witness: Ann Tennant Cousin (present) 76 Southpark Avenue, Glasgow.
*William Silver was not her natural father according to her birth cert as she was the base child of her mother. However, it is possible that he was actually her natural father.

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Elizabeth married John Aiken CARR on 28 Sep 1918 in Church of the New Jerusalem, Glasgow, Scotland, UK. John was born on 18 Mar 1868 in Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland, UK; died in UNKNOWN. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]